Step by step beginner guide how why doses cycles stacks PCT

[Dmomuchole]

I’m 33 male,5’11 165lbs. I’ve done a cycle before but it’s been many years and I was reckless and did everything I wasn’t supposed to do, like massive doses of everything but the kitchen sink including tren and this was a 6 month cycle with no PCT. It was pretty stupid I thought I was invincible lol it messed me up. I spent many hours researching in the past but I was doing heroic doses for my first cycle I got good gains but at a steep price of my health and hair. I’m wanting to get back on the horse but responsibly. I’m looking for a good step by step guide with the the how and why, beginner doses stacks,cycles and PCT . I’ve read many post here and hours of searching Google but there is so much junk and shitty suggestions to sift through. So any books or links would be helpful. I’m sure the knowledge you guys have is in many posts but there are thousands of post to look through and I have been for many hours but I would prefer a book that I can reference and highlight make notes. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[BigSwole69]

Tons of knowledge here brother. Welcome. I’m sure some higher vet guys will help you.

 

[Optumpharma]

@Dmomuchole first off, welcome and glad to have you!

Now, i am sad to hear about your prior conditions as this is common in the Gym world more than you think. Now as far as books your not going to get much on what you are looking for except for a few but they are medical studies and those have a tremendous amount of information but also alot of terms that are going to be hard to follow if you have no experience in the medical field.

Personally, i would suggest writing out your goals, concerns and questions so they we can tackle each one together. Then from there i would like to see any lab results you have. Best of luck and happy to help!

 

[McSwickles]

Welcome aboard, glad you found us! What @Optumpharma stated is spot on, I can’t speak for him, but knowing how much help he has offered in the past I know I would take all of his advice, and he is always willing to help!

 

[Dmomuchole]

Hey thanks for replying promptly, sounds like labs are the way to go, but I don’t have insurance. I will look into it. I’m mainly looking for trt for a little boost for my fist cycle and see how I feel and look. And for my following cycle I’d add some Dbol and Deca.
I’m thinking sustanon would be my choice for test, seems like the way to go. Sounds like one 200-250mg a week
injection to start. Then the Dbol I’d incorporate at 20 mg daily. And for gyno and pct use tamoxifen, when symptoms arise and PCT 2-3 weeks at the end of the cycle @ 20mg daily?
I may get really good results with test alone.
I’m looking for some guideline doses for 3 month cycles.
What’s a standard trt cycle?

What would you guys suggest?

 

[Ominous]

Welcome

 

[Optumpharma]

@Dmomuchole Labs are right around $150.00 so please invest there as i can not stress once i have that i can truly diagnose you and help!

Lets start with your cycle you listed: You state 250mg of Sustanon a week. This will actually be worse on your receptors than just a basic Test Cyp or Ent cycle at 1cc a week. Given the molecule schedule of sustanon you would run of out that 1 ml of sustanon in 5 days leaving a high nitrogen level then a crash weekly so you would experience high and lows. I would highly suggest against this.

Next you would have Dbol listed at 20mg this also would arise a receptor issue as you are partially saturating the receptor with a micro dose. In a clinical setting you would see a minimum of 40mg daily administered 20mg AM and 20mg PM.

Lastly, you mention Tamoxifen at 20mg daily. Again you will not be repairing any natural testicular function only masking breast tissue that can arise from estrogen. This will only give the illusion everything is ok, which is not ok.

So, in theory this cycle would only yield water retention and a slightly peaked sex drive in high and lows. But lets correct this together cause i will not sign off on the above for 1.) your health and safety but 2.) your results wont stay.

Below is what i would suggest
12 Week Protocol
Sustanon 400mg- .50cc 3x weekly Monday, Wednesday and Friday
Test Cyp 200mg- .50cc 3x weekly Monday, Wednesday and Friday
Dbol 20mg- 20mg AM and 20mg PM **Weeks 1-5
Arimdex- .5mg Tuesday and Thursday **Weeks 1-11

PCT-
HCG- 500iu **weeks 10-15
Clomid- 100mg **weeks 12-14 50mg then **weeks 14-16
Tamoxifen- 40mg **weeks 12-14 then 20mg **weeks 14-16

Best as always and always here to help!

 

[BigSwole69]

He has spoken the ancient texts of wisdom! Lol

 

[Youts]

The tablet was brought down from the mountains!

 

[BigSwole69]

I heard he only carves the ancient manuscripts from the whitest marble, with only the finest polished blades made by the seekers of gains!

 

[Dmomuchole]

Thanks brother

 

[Youts]

Chiseled with the steel from only the finest blacksmiths. Forged in the fires of a volcano, and the sacrifice of a virgin.

 

[BigSwole69]

From there the forged blade is purified in the waters of lake Minnetonka!

 

[Youts]

Or the depths of Lake Superior, always causes a storm, that’s why there’s so many shipwrecks!

They left out that part in the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald!

 

[Dmomuchole]

PCT-
HCG- 500iu **weeks 10-15
Clomid- 100mg **weeks 12-14 50mg then **weeks 14-16
Tamoxifen- 40mg **weeks 12-14 then 20mg **weeks 14-16

And these are all daily doses, correct?

 

[Dmomuchole]

Man I’m glad I reached out , on point, definitely a wealth of knowledge. I really appreciate you guys being receptive and taking the time to give me this information, it’s a gift man. This is my first time ever posting on a form. I don’t like asking for help, I’m pretty self reliant but I know you guys have many many years experience and I can admit when I don’t know shit.

Now I just need to do the math for the order lol

 

[Optumpharma]

This is correct minus hcg. That is 500iu 2x weekly.

Please ask for help. I have seen many people ruin their internals. We are here to help any way.

 

[BigSwole69]

Can’t go wrong here brother I’m on optums full cycle and feel like Zeus I posted my bloods too. So you’re in a solid place brother. Just be safe and ask questions.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Welcome to ugmuscle brother glad to have you around I made this into your intro

 

[Dmomuchole]

@Bigmurph thanks brother