UG Introduction, first time

[hashim280]

Thanks for the simple response, my protein intake has been consistent.

I monitor my caloric intake, but after reading some comments I am investing in a scale tomorrow, and am going prep some meals. I have never strictly planned a diet. I am going to keep reading comments and watch some youtube to develop a protocol. Currently I eat a lot of grilled chicken thighs, eggs, and low-fat cottage cheese for protein. I want clarify…

hashim280:

Thanks for all of the greetings. My first question is where and how to post my questions? My situation is i am 38 yo 6’2 220 lbs. approx. 20% bf. I have been training regularly for 5 months. I am planing to run my first test e or c 8-week cycle followed by 3 weeks 50mg daily clomid pct. My focus has been strength\cardio training (P90x/crossfit). Should I focus primarily on lifting for 8-weeks or should i incorporate it into my current fitness regiment? Is my planned cycle the best for my current routine? Should my PCT be adequate, and any advice for utilizing the UG Muscle sponsers?

 

[Bigmurph6]

Really no pros and cons just really what you want in the end result.
If you’re goal is a quick cut and you have low bf cutmix is the way to go.
If you’re trying to diet down get on a deficit and then cut or bulk.
If you’re planning on just bulking go for it testosterone plus a oral if interested like dbol or adrol. If you’re more advanced add a nor19 like npp or decca and really get big.
Its really all about goals that’s what shapes your cycle length and duration plus your diet and training

 

[TBU]

Well you might get a lot of answers about running at least 12 weeks on Test. 8 weeks you’d just get into the power range of the Test. Most. Not all. Don’t get the test feel till at least week 4 or 5. Me, I am old school. 12 weeks on. 12 weeks off. What I was taught and works well for me. Since being on this board, was told 15 weeks on a stack was the best. I tried that and I felt like after 12 weeks it began to plateau. My advice is 12 weeks. And I am sure you can ask PHD, Murph, bezerker to give input as well. I would see how your body feels on a test only cycle. I learned a lot on that and what I work well with. I do know for me less is more. Meaning 500mg a week works better than 1000mg. But each and everyone needs to know their body. What worked for me may not for you.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Since being on this board, was told 15 weeks on a stack was the best. I tried that and I felt like after 12 weeks it began to plateau.

This is the truth and throughout my time ive run 20wks ive run 6wks and pulled out. When you start a cycle you have a plan and sometimes that plan doesn’t go the way that you wanted and just like @TBU said listening to your body is important if you planned 16wk and at wk 10 you feel horrible lethargic and that something isn’t right either cut out completely. Taper down which is my preferred method because I don’t believe that going from one extreme to another is healthy in any way.
You can though if its bad enough just end it.
I had a cycle that I started with testosterone enanthate 500mg split and I was taking MHN for the first time. Instantly almost I started to get gyno symptoms. I couldn’t figure it out and im 2wk in so I really didn’t want to go get blood work. At 4wks I stopped everything. I was taking exemestane pharma grade and it wasn’t doing anything for the gyno symptoms. I crashed my estrogen and was a mess. Started taking caber and in about 2wk no more issues. Luckily gyno didn’t stick.
All my research said that MHN had no potential for gyno and it was the progesterone levels that it converts to strongly with me especially so lesson learned but from listening to my body and just stopping the cycle completely.
I recently ran MHN and was fine because I started caber wk 1 and when I did bloodwork I had been off it for almost 2wks and I was still on the high end with my progesterone.

 

[hashim280]

I really want to keep this first protocol simple. 12 weeks test e or c week1-4 taper up from .5 - 2ml. weeks 4-8 1ml 2x per weeks 8-14 w 2 -.5ml. 3 weeks clomid 50mg per day PCT. How does that look, is the PCT sufficient, should I include AI? When should I get bloodwork and what do do with it?

 

[Bigmurph6]

I would definitely have AI on hand order some aromasin just incase. Better to have and not need then to need and not have.
Its interesting with the taper.
I will be honest though you are going to shut down your endocrine system just to use such a small amount of testosterone.
If you want taper down but I wouldn’t taper up.
Your pct will be good especially if you are going to taper down and blood work would normally be done wk 6 just to see where everything is at and if everything looks good you should have a solid cycle.
My preference would be run 500mgs 12wks but im curious about how the taper works out for you.

 

[hashim280]

The recommendation to taper on and off was given to me based on the fact that this is my first cycle. Planning to ease in and out of it to avoid adverse effects, same with running a test only cycle. I am sure I will see great gains, and am more interested in gaining knowledge/experience rather than maximizing gains at the risk of making major mistakes, and having to struggle to make corrections. Am I being overly cautious? I am concerned about what I would do if I started seeing gyno, or if I had to make any adjustments I am trying to approach this wisely. I will definatley plan include Aromisin.

 

[TBU]

I’m a fan of Adex. I love it. For me .5 mg every 4 days on cycle keeps me elevated. My gauge on my AI? Morning wood. . If I don’t have morning wood. It’s time for a dose. that’s on a blast.

 

[hashim280]

I am getting ready to make my order was looking at pharmcomstore but I prefer to order domestic and one sponsor for Test c, PCT, AI, and pins. @ TBU @Bigmurph has been a great help! Thanks

 

[TBU]

Plenty of great domestic sources on here. I’ve found several that are top notch and are always professional. Just do some research. Lots of recommendations. I think we even have a sponsor board you can check out.