Bad results on Proviron

[anabolic_geek]

Perhaps it would be prudent to ask @ROIDTEST what the limitations of their tests are. That way we could better understand the variables involved that could cause a test to fail.

 

[Dmomuchole]

It’s only my opinion as a member. So thes color test of our sponsor isn’t trustworthy? So why are they a sponsor?

 

[Dmomuchole]

And if another product of another sponsor comes up negative then it’s ok?

 

[anabolic_geek]

Like @TG stated, it’s just a tool. There are any number of reasons a product might fail a colorimetric test. Things like different fillers in pressed pills or different carrier oils. Maybe there was a contaminant present on the users fingers like hand soap. We simply have no way of knowing.

All I’m saying is it isn’t reasonable to nail a sponsor to the cross if they fail a colorimetric test given it’s limitations.

 

[Dmomuchole]

Yes however in the past when this happens the sponsor is held accountable. So I’ve said my part , I’m done lol. I respect whatever TG says, it’s his forum.

 

[Steroidify_Rep]

And all our sponsors that have been informed of a problem in the past rectify it immediately.

There’s no problem to be rectified.
We offer the very best solution possible to the misunderstanding.

What else could we possibly do? Agree that a color test is accurate and replace product? It’s a matter of principle. Color tests aren’t accurate, period. We will not agree with that… Chromatography tests, OTOH, are… And guess what, we will pay for you or anyone else to have those performed on any products sold by us, up to $700 per customer who wants to do it.

We’re offering way more than a cheap “here’s a blister of proviron from a different brand, now shut your mouth” solution. This is not us…

I don’t know what else to write here and am probably done with it until I can bring real results that, of course, many of you will question. C’est la vie.

 

[Stratfordave]

I think we are all guilty of believing all of this is a legitimate “business” … this is what it is …growing up in inner city Philly in the 90s, some guys sold great weed other sold shit. The idiots bought the shit, smart people got their hands on the good stuff . Same concept, these are illegal compounds from underground labs, getting raws from Jesus know where! Find sources you trust, use them wisely, train get blood work done. We are all guilty of making this too complex. I see guys (even on this board) using every source know to man, blows my mind! Maybe I’m paranoid… but i probably have used less than 8 sources in 25 years … don’t like a source, move on.

 

[Dirtnasty]

To add just cause one source is great today doesn’t mean they are tomorrow nature of the beast.

 

[Poppy]

Truth

 

[Poppy]

Truth

 

[TG1]

Go back and look at other problems in the past and when roidtest was wrong then too and they explained how different things could throw it off. HPLC is accurate and reagent testing has errors. Why do you think when police bust people on the street they use a reagent test as the basis and then send it to the lab for a real test in order to prosecute? They wont get convictions off a field test kit because the margin for error. They use it as a tool only. No one is going to say a reagent test is better then an HPLC. If they do, they don’t understand the first thing about science.

Maybe contact Simec and see what they say about HPLC vs reagent.

https://anaboliclab.com/simec-swiss-lab-testing/

Now if Simec says a product is bad then it definitely is. Theres no questions about it. This is what a real report will look like.

 

[TG1]

I actually stated here when this issue came out with GC. When roidtest showed false and labmax showed it was real.

Re-tested Anavar with LabMax Sponsor - Gearchurch

I’m not really worried about it honestly. I know everything about Janoshik. And I don’t trust them. People can test however they want of course and I think somethings need to be addressed regarding this whole issue between labmax and roidtest results. But I also think its not worth it from a board perspective anymore to handle or look into these things. As a board I think we are going to take a different look at how things are handled when any test doesnt come out as expected. If anyone wants t…

 

[Dmomuchole]

That’s Kool bro I won’t be using roidtest either.

 

[PNWmuscle]

You sending to HPLC each time?

 

[JLee]

Does anyone know how much it cost to have stuff tested using a lab?

 

[Poppy]

I do not sir

 

[herrubermensch]

My quick and dirty on all of this:

It’s not a viable policy to ask the customer to send in an unsealed version of what they obviously opened and color-tested. And even if they agreed to buy another unsealed instance of the product for testing, that does not resolve whether the particular instance received by the customer was in fact fake or something else. IMHO, Steroidify should ask the customer to return to it the remainder of the unused product that was tested and send THAT instance of the product out for testing that would satisfy Steroidify. Sterpoidify’s policy is like some shirt manufacturers: 100% satisfaction guarantee, but you have to return the product unopened in its original packaging. Well how in the Hell do you know whether it fit or you’re satisfied without opening the damn thing?! Just silly and designed to deter the customer from actually having tests run.

I’m getting to the point with all of this nonsense where I think I’ll obtain two of everything, one for use and one for independent lab testing that I pay for. Seems to be the only real way to know for sure.

 

[Symarip85]

Also keep in mind that you’re commiting felony mail fraud by shipping this stuff to the testing facility which I would imagine is a square business that had no reason not to blow you in if there’s any issue of a legal nature. Don’t break the law while you’re breaking the law. Limit you’re exposure as much as possible.

 

[herrubermensch]

Not following this. Not legal advice, but it isn’t felony mail fraud to send a chemical to a lab for testing. You might be violating some OTHER law (i.e., using mails to send an prescription only chemical when you don’t have a prescription), but it’s not mail fraud.

 

[Symarip85]

If you involve the mail in a crime, it’s mail fraud.