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Bad results on Proviron

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Xoomd said:
No I’m specifically saying what it is may be unknown at this point. And suggesting that a good way to determine what an unknown chemical is, is to take it, is bad advice.
It’s not unknown.

It has a label saying exactly what’s in it.

You can either trust the lab or send the product for testing BEFORE opening them. And you normally will pay for the testing yourself. Will Pfizer or Bayer pay for the testing of one of their products? Don’t think they will…

Also, who paid for the color kit? The customer, right?

But Steroidify will walk the extra mile and pay for you to test any product. Just send them sealed and let us know.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards.
 
You can’t like randomly test products you stock? Especially ones that prove problematic? Why does someone have to go thru the hassle of buying a product, getting burned and then having to go thru a complicated procedure when you’re perfectly capable of sending a bottle or vial in for testing yourselves?

I really don’t think it’s an unreasonable ask to ask you to test your own stuff on a periodic basis especially when problems are raised by customers you claim to value. Instead, they have to go thru a complex and lengthy buy/return/test process to get closure.

Am I off base here?
 
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anabolic_geek said:
You can’t like randomly test products you stock? Especially ones that prove problematic? Why does someone have to go thru the hassle of buying a product, getting burned and then having to go thru a complicated procedure when you’re perfectly capable of sending a bottle or vial in for testing yourselves?

I really don’t think it’s an unreasonable ask to ask you to test your own stuff on a periodic basis especially when problems are raised by customers you claim to value. Instead, they have to go thru a complex and lengthy buy/return/test process to get closure.

Am I off base here?
We are the source that tests more in the business.

Will you trust us if I bring a Beligas Proviron test here? We can do it no problem… We offer the customer to send it without telling us because we want to have transparency, that’s all.

Please check our lab test section yourself:


Do you know any other source that does this? I do not…

There’s no problem raised by customers here. Color tests are not real tests, period. Present a chromatography test with a problem and we will fix it immediately.

No source in this business will believe a product is bad based on a color test, no one…
 
Dmomuchole said:
It should never be the customers job to perform quality control for your business. You’ve been informed there is an issue.
There’s no issue with the product whatsoever. Bring a bad test and we will replace it immediately, no questions asked.
 
I had bad issue with this source not go into details. But it seems like if anything ever goes wrong they could care less to fix it. And not saying them but another don’t even care if they have fakes or maybe they know. This shit goes into our body and can have serious effects.
 
AK47 said:
I had bad issue with this source not go into details.
In 13 years in business there isn’t a single customer that can claim that they lost money with us. Unless it’s a delay or seizure that we resend, everyone gets what they pay for in timely fashion.

I challenge you on your details. Please go ahead and let us know what happened.
AK47 said:
But it seems like if anything ever goes wrong they could care less to fix it. And not saying them but another don’t even care if they have fakes or maybe they know. This shit goes into our body and can have serious effects.
We will fix any and every issue.
The situation presented in this thread is NOT an issue with the product. It’s a color test with a slightly different color result.

But I have already requested that Beligas’ proviron be properly HPLC tested. Wondering if you folks won’t claim that we sent a good batch to be tested and sell bad batches. Will take a little while, obviously, but I will bring results here.

We DO NOT sell fakes, period. All the products sold on Steroidify can be verified by the manufacturers themselves. Human grade options can be scanned by government’s app.
 
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For the members following along, I’ve run this up the chain as to how this should be handled.

I personally don’t believe a sponsor should be asking a member to bear the responsibility of testing. I’ve said before, roid test is a tool not an end all be all to testing. However this tool is showing something questionable.

I’m overtly not a fan of a sponsor telling a member to just take it an see what happens after an unclear test result. That seems foolish and unsafe.

@Symarip85 hang tight. I’ve run this up like I said. The person that used to handle this is gone, and he never provided us any insight as to how these things get handled. I’m following along, doing what I can.
 
NeuroRN said:
I personally don’t believe a sponsor should be asking a member to bear the responsibility of testing.
For the hundredth time, it’s not “to bear the responsibility of testing”. It’s for the test to be trusted, for Christ’s sake…

But if everyone trusts us to test a product that you’re claiming is bad, fine, we will send it to testing.

If it comes bad, we will refund the customer plus 20%.
NeuroRN said:
I’m overtly not a fan of a sponsor telling a member to just take it an see what happens after an unclear test result. That seems foolish and unsafe.
So, consuming an UG product is unsafe, huh? I guess if you color test it and it comes out as perfect (whatever that can be on a color test) it’s safe then? Do the color tests test for impurities too?

We’ve had our share of customers saying things like “this product didn’t work like it did on my first cycle when I was 16” or maybe “now that I’m 220 pounds I didn’t gain 20 pounds with this cycle as I did when I was 160 pounds”. Same thing with “the color isn’t exactly what’s on the chart of my color test”.

We will NOT replace products for these reasons…

You think you received something else? Send it for testing on our dime… That’s way more expensive for us than sending you a blister of proviron, like WAYYYYYYYYY more expensive. And it’s the right thing to do.

We offer this crazy, unique guarantee and no one wants to take advantage of it? Fine then…

If we are informed by admin that on this board color tests are considered same level as chromatography, we will be glad to comply.
 
I actually wrote about Bilegas and roid test for murph to post when shit was hitting the fan about them. Im not finding it tho unless he edited it into one of his longer posts.

First thing is Beligas. Beligas is a brand carried by a lot of sources online and its popular in europe even from street dealers. Theres never been any issues with them until recently. Back in Sept 2019 (a year after their website) I called out the brand based on the internet site and sites of spam/scam sellers online. But they grew very fast in Europe. I dont think they would intentionally burn their brand because business is too high. BUT as i told Murph then and I still think everyone should stop buying THE BRAND from ANY suppliers until it is figured out.

For that being said, remember steroidify is not new to the game either. They are the old Pharmacom website. They’ve had a great reputation for years all over the world.

Roid test is not accurate all the time. Its a baseline only and tested only on pharma products. There are times when a roidtest gave a false negative and an HPLC test gave it positive. It should never be used as an end all here. Its good to check on things but reagent testing will never be as accurate as HPLC.

Now on to this issue. First the rep for steroidify is really just a rep. He is not one of the owners. So he cant make definitive calls. He does a good job here and I know some people want him to give a final answer but when he says to contact their customer service its just that. They have a separate contact and people who can handle that. Some other sources the rep is just the owner or a partner and some cases its really just a rep. I understand the headache of what the rep is saying about testing, but again hes a rep. I spoke with one of the partners about this before. There’s issues with people saying when they send the products to be tested that people can accuse them of selling one product and testing another. And hes right. They also have a lot of competitors from other suppliers that would love a way to make it more expensive and harder on them.

Their openness about refunding on testing and 20% isnt something you will find many others doing.

Heres what I dont think. I dont think Beligas would put a harmful product in the pills or vials. If so then you would see it all over europe right now. My old neighbor sells beligas in the gym here. But he also sells a bunch of shit I know is low dosed. Especially products like GH. I understand Steroidifys position and they did used to post HPLC tests on their old site and looks like they still do.



So for anyone to say they dont test or dont care about testing is wrong. I know I tore into Janosik here and the guy absolutely hates me. But the kid that does the testing is smart enough and more then qualified to it. I heard he legitimately opened his business legally there after his bullshit happened.

This goes for ANY lab. Lets say they did a roidtest and came back false. Then the source sends a test for HPLC. It shows positive. People will ALWAYS say that they sent a real product to the lab, and sold a different product. Steroidify would never intentionally sell a bad product and I would think any lab selling a brand to them would not intentionally risk losing their business over sending them intentionally bad products either.

As Ive said many times, sometimes a product maybe bad but the lab didn’t know it because not every raw was tested properly (and many never get tested) or maybe they mislabeled or mixed something wrong. Sometimes shit happens in these lines. I do know Beligas proved to be big in Europe and do know people who take it and have no issues.

Ive been in Balkans lab years ago and its what you would expect from third world pharma company. Some kitchen cooks have better conditions and practices but I still love Balkans halo and it was one of the best products I ever ran.
 
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I honestly think this company and this rep should be banned, makes UGM look like shit if we tolerate “sponsors” like this. This is setting a standard for other sponsors. And all our sponsors that have been informed of a problem in the past rectify it immediately. I’m really holding back from saying some dumb shit here guys. It’s obvious they are a large corporation and don’t give two fucks about losing a sponsee or two they have lost my respect at this point.Lol
 
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Idk it’s a tough situation. I’m not a fan of the order/return/test policy. That said, there could be any number of reasons why the colorimetric test failed. I agree with @TG that they should be given the benefit of the doubt as it does seem like they genuinely try their level best to ensure quality products.
 
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