One I don’t know personally they were on here,and the other one I actually know is 5’9 and I believe at the time was 250 he was huge veins comin out everywhere, said he felt like a God runnin that much, his bp was high to, haven’t known him to run that much since, but he still uses 600-700 week a tren on a regular basis,can’t even fathom using that much