The desperate plight of a hard gaining ectomorph

[Poppy]

My fitness pal from underarmor. I’ve not signed up for the pay per use part. The free side gives me everything I need.

They have a great search engine and once you log it once to your daily intake, it’s in your personal database.

 

[Poppy]

There are others. That’s the one a friend recommended so i use it. Been using it since October or so.

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Alright I’ll download that and tonight I will go through my fridge and pantry and start adding the shit and making sure it’s getting the correct food item

 

[Poppy]

That’s what i do. The search engine will show you specific brands and their metrics but i double check against the packaging.

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Been using it and am already at 186g protein and only 1900 calories lol. Still have dinner to eat but it will put me at over 200g protein and barely scraping 2500 calories. Not sure if that is a good thing or not but with my current weight 2500 is a deficit just not sure how much. I would like to continue making strength gains but we will see how that range works for me. I’m also fucking hungry still

 

[Poppy]

Gotta calculate your cals burned also. Cardio etc. carb intake…fat intake etc.

Depends on your goals also. If you were following @Dirtnasty log you could see he was on something like 5000 cals a day without dedicated cardio. That’s how he got massive. He’s dedicated so his cut is going to be impressive.

What exactly is your goal?

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Yeah the macros will be up when I complete the entire days entry. I feel
Like I have bulked up enough and have hit a goal of mine so I feel like I should cut up a bit. I can test out 2500 calories a day and see how it works for me. Yeah 5k calories is quite a lot…he is a big dude so I could imagine he needs to be at a much higher calorie count than me to be in a surplus. I can check the scale once a week or once every two weeks and see where I’m at and if I need to adjust the calories.

 

[Dirtnasty]

6000

 

[Poppy]

I stand corrected sir. Thats 3 days for me.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Its a good thing if you plan on cutting brother you want to add mass so as you see you gotta up your intake. Protein 200-400g 200 is bare minimum and this only counts real protein not powder. You will want to up your cals and carbs possibly to bulk up im glad that you did this experiment

 

[Bigmurph6]

Cutting is in a deficit in cals but macros you still want protein.
I believe that you should bulk you don’t have to dirty bulk but running test and not feeding it is not going to turn out well brother im just trying to let you know that your going to shutdown to then pct and in the end you won’t have mass left and fat will fill the gap because at this point you have lower testosterone levels. I just don’t want to see anyone hurting themselves or not getting the most out of messing with their hormones.

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Hmm I can up the calories but cleanly to avoid unnecessary fat until I am off cycle then cut

 

[Bigmurph6]

That’s the route I believe is best for you

 

[Poppy]

Stay away from the tarts

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Fucking gf loves tarts and always has the tarts in the house. I get to look at her junk food stash every time I open the pantry

 

[SidTheSlothh]

            Cals        Carbs      Fat    Protein      Sodium       Sugar
           3,060	     286	   101	    233	        3,600        92

 

[SidTheSlothh]

Felt pretty weak in the gym today so dropped the low rep range and went for high reps low weight and slashed the workout in half. Get some extra rest in since I keep sleeping like shit. Get that CPAP today so hopefully I can get some more quality sleep in. Got a referral to have a CT scan done on my sinuses. Doc said it could be a deviated septum so we will see.

My estrogen results came in today. Came back in normal range at 95 and the reference range is 40-115. That was also after taking 6 weeks of dbol so it appears I have found the AI that works for me.

 

[Dirtnasty]

That seems to be a weird reference range

 

[SidTheSlothh]

 

[Dirtnasty]

I may just be used to seeing estrodial not all
Of the estrogen